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LucianMortim |
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bread and circuses, I meant.
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Dream King668 |
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Ordi, I totally agree with you.
I will further postulate that the attack against Iggi will be that up until 2 years ago, the guy didn't even live in Canada and only returned to make an attempt to take over the Liberals, that the first time he held a seat in Parliament was after he was just elected. That he has no experience and that he spent most of his life living outside of the country. That being said, from what I have read, Iggi would probably have been better suited in the old PC than he is in the Liberals and I foresee his conservative bend either sending moderate conservatives to the Liberal party or causing many from the Liberal party to leave to the NDP. He kind of seems like the fraternal twin of Harper. Not the same, but similar enough.
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ordeneus |
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To me this all points out just how lost the Liberals really are. They don't seem to have anyone within their ranks who would be easily electable. Iggy is
older, and yeah, some of his positions are straight out of the Conservative books...
"Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest."- Denis Diderot
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Wilbur |
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Yeah, I agree with the statement that when Ignatieff is the best choice for leader, your party is quite lost. I don't think Dion was the best leader for
the Liberals either but I'd prefer him over Ignatieff anyday. I don't forsee many Liberals joining ranks with the NDP (prominent ones anyway). I do
see the Liberals going even more conservative, with where money is spent. But that's been happening for a while anyway.
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Dream King668 |
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Dion is a Liberal, Iggi isn't. Martin was pretty much inbetween.
"One pound of flesh, no more no less. No
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LucianMortim |
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They're all the same criminals in politics.... they'll fuck you just as liberally as the other.
How about the issues? |
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Dream King668 |
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Don't be silly, the Liberal's don't have issues, they govern by polling.
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Sick Rose Studio |
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I actually think Ignatieff is exactly what the Liberal party needs right now. He's the perfect person to take on (and hopefully take down) Harper.
I didn't see his position on the coalition as equivocation, so much as simple pragmatism. A more centrist Liberal party is also more likely to take seats from the Conservatives than the NDP, which to me at least, would be a good thing overall for Parliament. Besides, after the anti-art, anti-culture government we've been stuck with these past few years, I like the idea of a writer and filmmaker as a possible PM.
"Patriotism is the virtue of the wicked."
~Oscar Wilde |
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LucianMortim |
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Conservatives and liberals aren't what they used to be... hell.. politically, my political views are A LOT closer to what is really conservative than
anything... but conservatives are just as liberal as liberals now... they'll legislate away all of your rights and make you think it's a great idea and
makes life better. They make government so over-reaching that you can't scratch your ass without being confronted with some law regulating how many
scratches you are permitted, the motion which you are permitted to use in the scratching, and being forced to adhere to an ass scratching tax (you know...just
to pay for all of the "nanny state")... but the illusion that a truly conservative political perspective exists vs a liberal one, just to mask the
fact that "liberal government" isn't more free, but less free.
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